Wednesday, August 5, 2015

the mindset of "war": the "military option" is no longer an option






diplomacy or war

The "mindset of war" is characterized by a preference for military action over diplomacy
"Leaders did not inform their people of the cost of war"


full text and video  of Obama's speach at American University on the topic of Iran deal:

http://wapo.st/1IHwBh4

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/05/text-obama-gives-a-speech-about-the-iran-nuclear-deal/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/obama-and-the-iran-deal/400535/

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-05/obama-reruns-specter-of-iraq-invasion-to-make-case-for-iran-deal

Obama rode to the White House in 2008 on his early, vocal and mostly lonely opposition to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. More than a decade later, he says the fight over the Iran deal is with the same group of neoconservative politicians and commentators who beat the drum for war over diplomacy to meet what turned out to be a non-existent threat in Iraq.
Listening to them again on Iran, he argued in a speech Wednesday in Washington, would be another historic mistake.
"More than a decade later we still live with the consequences of the invasion of Iraq," Obama said at American University, the same venue where in 1963 President John F. Kennedy called for a recalibration in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. "I raise this history because now more than ever we need clear-thinking in our foreign policy."Obama and his aides have invoked some of the most prominent proponents of going to war in Iraq: former Vice President Dick Cheney to former UN Ambassador John Bolton and Bill Kristol, founder of The Weekly Standard.Kristol, for one, is unapologetic either for his support for the Iraq invasion or his opposition to the deal with Iran.

Failing the Test

"Obama's free to re-litigate Iraq," Kristol said Wednesday before the president spoke. "But he's losing the argument over Iran.""Obama said Iran couldn't be permitted a nuclear weapons infrastructure," Kristol said in an e-mail. "Obama condemned Iranian terrorism. Obama denounced Iran for killing Americans in Iraq. Obama signed the sanctions legislation. Obama said he had Israel's back. The deal fails all these tests."Another backer of the 2003 Iraq invasion, Arizona Republican Senator John McCain, dismissed Obama's arguments in a statement Wednesday opening his Armed Services Committee hearing on the Iran agreement.The administration, he said, "suggests that any criticism of this deal is tantamount to a call to war. Such scare tactics are to be expected from this administration, but they have no place in a debate of this magnitude."Obama said in his address today that his critics were repeatedly wrong in assessing threats from Iraq and Iran. Rejecting the Iran deal would unravel economic sanctions that forced the Islamic Republic to negotiate, accelerate its nuclear program and hurt U.S. credibility in the world, he said.

Easy Choice

"I've had to make a lot of tough calls as president, but whether or not this deal is good for American security is not one of those calls," he said. "It's not even close."In anticipation of a vote in the Republican-led Congress to disapprove the accord next month, Obama and his allies are girding against a well-funded campaign to influence lawmakers by groups including the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. They also face adamant opposition by the Israeli government.The agreement announced last month in Vienna between Iran, the U.S. and five other world powers eases sanctions in return for verifiable limits on the Islamic Republic's nuclear program.Obama has vowed to veto a resolution of disapproval if Congress passes one at the end of a 60-day review period that ends in mid-September.He is counting on Democrats to prevent the Republican-led opposition from overriding his veto. He'd need at least 44 House Democrats and 13 Senate Democrats to stand with him.

'Selling a Fantasy'

In his speech, Obama said a rejection of the agreement by Congress would leave the U.S. standing alone and Iran in a stronger position."Those who say we can just walk away from this deal and maintain sanctions are selling a fantasy," he said.AIPAC on Wednesday distributed a memo citing polls that suggest Americans are increasingly skeptical of the deal.Just over half of Americans believe the Iraq war was a mistake, according to a Gallup poll conducted in June. Polls on the Iran deal have shown varying levels of support, depending on how the question is framed.A CBS News poll released Tuesday found that almost half of Americans don't know enough about the deal to form an opinion. Among those with an opinion, opponents outnumber supporters 33 percent to 20 percent.

Consequential Choice

The Iran agreement "is historically consequential for the national security of the United States," Hardin Lang, a former diplomat and researcher at the Center for American Progress, a Washington group which backs the agreement, said in a telephone interview. "I spent a couple of years in Iraq, and I think people need to understand the gravity of the choice before us."Obama explicitly drew a parallel with Kennedy's 1963 address, which urged Americans to support a nuclear test-ban treaty with the Soviets despite deep suspicion and animosity." We do not want a war," Kennedy said. "This generation of Americans has already had enough - - more than enough - - of war and hate and oppression."Obama said the standoff with the Soviet Union was much more dangerous than what the world faces today. Kennedy, he said, rejected the idea of "security with perpetual war footing" for "a practical and attainable peace."The Iran agreement "builds on this tradition of strong, principled policy diplomacy," Obama said.

25 comments:

  1. We have to end the mindset of war.

    'The Culture of War,' by Martin van Creveld

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/books/chapters/chapter-culture-of-war.html?pagewanted=all&referrer=

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  2. Hiroshima has become a metaphor not just for nuclear war but for war and destruction and violence toward civilians.
    It's not just the idea we should not use nuclear arms.
    We should not start another war because it's madness.
    --Max von Sydow

    Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/hiroshima.html#XVq1kgxq6ZjfpA7X.99

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  3. Pushing a hawkish foreign policy is a staple of Republican presidential politics.
    If you do not want war...don't vote Republican!

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    1. Are Republicans "warmongers"?

      https://www.yahoo.com/politics/gop-would-have-us-in-seven-wars-right-now-090043699.html

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  4. One of the many human costs of war:

    Infrastructures destroyed,social and political order destabilized

    Europe overwhelmed by tidal wave of desperate refuges.

    Desperate migrants risk dieing to seek better life in Europe
    mass exodus out of Africa and Middle East: 

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24583286

    media focus has been on the inconvenience to Europeans of this encroaching tide of refugees....rather than on the dire conditions the desperate migrants are risking their lives to escape( from war-torn Syria,Iraq,Afghanistan)

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  5. Europe's refugee crisis worst since 2nd World War!

    Massive influx of asylum-seekers overwhelm Europe...in effort to escape from the horror of war.

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    1. these millions of refugees are the innocent victims of war.
      Now they must risk their lives to escape the destruction within their war-torn regions and to desperately seek safety compelled by the simple desire to live out their lives with dignity and peace.

      Military conflicts are not local circumscribed
      e vents, but create humanitarian crises
      wch affect all humanity.

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    2. 7 million people displaced by war seeking safety

      we have a moral obligation to aid those seeking refuge from the tragedy of war.
      The international community must accept responsibility for causing and therefore relieving these consequences of war

      Shocking images of drowned Syrian boy show tragic plight of refugees


      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/shocking-image-of-drowned-syrian-boy-shows-tragic-plight-of-refugees

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/shocking-image-of-drowned-syrian-boy-shows-tragic-plight-of-refugees

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  6. Every war is a crime against humanity:

    in every military conflict the greatest number of casualties is not among the armed combatants but among the innocent civilians.
    The horrendous suffering inflicted upon the innocent is never justifiable!

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  7. The himan toll of war

    http://www.alternet.org/world/real-human-toll-western-war-terror

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    1. Lives shaped by violence
      UNICEF report: the toll of war on Syrian children.

      https://news.vice.com/article/a-third-of-syrian-children-have-lived-their-whole-lives-amid-the-chaos-of-war

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  8. "In today's deeply interdependent world, war is outdated and illogical. All regions, and all peoples, are interconnected environmentally, economically, and politically. War, oppression or civil strife in one area inevitably affects people in other parts of the world."
    --Dalai Lama

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  9. Someone asked the Dalai Lama, "Why didn't you fight back against the Chinese?"
    The Dalai Lama looked down, swung his feet just a bit, then looked back up and said with a gentle smile, "Well, war is obsolete, you know."
    Then, after a few moments, his face grave, he said, "Of course the mind can rationalize fighting back ... but the heart, the heart would never understand. Then you would be divided in yourself, the heart and the mind, and the war would be inside you."

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  11. Radislav Karadzic:butcher of Bosnia-- guilty of genocide against Moslem population--sentenced to 40 years for genocide -
    CNN.com
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/24/europe/karadzic-war-crimes-verdict/

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ex-bosnian-serb-leader-radovan-karadzic-guilty-genocide-n544671


    8000 muslim men executed in Shrebernitza (the massacre of Shrebernitza)

    those who commit crimes against humanity will face justice:

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  12. "the butcher's trail"
    --julian boerger

    genocide perpetrated by political leaders

    mass atrocities being carried out today with impunity

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  13. when heads of state disagree... they go to war

    its a primitive strategy for resolving conflict.
    It has to stop.
    And those who continue in this barbaric practice of "making war" must be held accountable and convicted of mass murder.

    Building armaments in preparation for war is immensely expensive and diverts valuable resources from healthcare,education, infrastructure,etc.

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  14. when heads of state disagree... they go to war

    its a primitive strategy for resolving conflict.
    It has to stop.
    And those who continue in this barbaric practice of "making war; must be held accountable and convicted of mass murder.
    Building armaments in preparation for war is immensely expensive and diverts valuable resources from healthcare,education, infrastructure,etc.

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  15. International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons wins Npbel Peace Prize for 2017

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/oct/06/nobel-peace-prize-2017-winner-live

    http://www.icanw.org/

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  16. what have humans learned about war?

    Hopefully we've learned thst the use of military force is no longer a viable option for settling disputes. As weapons of mass destruction have become more widespread/proliferated and more destructive, their use threatens all humanity. The use of such weapons of war creates such horrible destruction and suffering thst we can no longer morally justify their use. Those who use such weapons must be held to account as criminals having commited crimes against humanity.
    In so far as terrorism is defined as the mass killing of innocent people...war is terrorism, and therefor those who commit war should be convicted of terrorism.

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  17. Universal Soldier by Buffie Saint Marie (rendition by firstaidkit)

    https://youtu.be/5Xq831b2tPg

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  18. with the development of high tech weaponry, tribal warfare is no longer a viable option.

    The current state of relationships between individual sovereign nation states can only be characterized as "anarchy".

    as long as national governments compete for their own interests there will be conflict and there will be war. There must be a peaceful method of resolving conflict. Whats needed is an international judicial system wch would enable disputes between nations to be settled in a civil, civilized, and peaceful method without resorting to military force (war and bloodshed). Such a dispute resolution mechanism would prevent much harm to innocent people..

    War is a complete breakdown in the rule of law.

    it would take a world govt to end poverty and establish world peace and security. Such a govt would have the power to adjudicate disputes between individual nations (thereby ending wars), and to distribute the world's resources fairly (thereby ending poverty). Daniel 2:44

    At some stage in the evolution of life ,some one-celled organisms united and subordinated themselves to the welfare of the whole.

    Perhaps we are at another such crossroad. We must expand our circumscribed tribal group identities and embrace a larger, more inclusive,more global one.

    Decisions cannot be made wch benefit one group at the expense of another. Decisions must be made wch benefit yhe whole.

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  19. A true revolution of values will lay hands on the world order and say of war- ;This way of settling differences is not just.; This way of burning human beings with napalm, of filling our nations homes with orphans and widows, of injecting poisonous drugs of hate into the veins of peoples normally humane, of sending men home from dark and bloody battlefields physically handicapped psychologically deranged, cannot be reconciled with wisdom, justice and love. A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death."
    from Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community? by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  Boston: Beacon Press, 1967. 

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  20. "War is not hell.
    War is war...and hell is hell.
    War is worse than hell!"
    --Alan Aldo

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  21. the terrible (economic and especially human)cost of war:

    Remembrance Day is not a time to remember past battlefield victories and individual heroism.
    Rather it is a day to reflect on the high cost of war. It is easy to forgrt what real war is all about.
    The veterans who returned with wounded souls remember the blood ,gore, death... ,and the horror of war. There is no glory in war!
    In every war innocent civilians are killed and injured because they lived in a war zone. Some are forced to flee as refugees because their homes and their countries have been devastated by warfare.
    In addition to the suffering and destruction (the carnage) that comes with war, the collective trauma lingers for generations
    War.is unjustifiable because the cost is too great!

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