Wednesday, January 16, 2008

What is the best identity the brain can construct?

the Supreme Identity
Wednesday, March 1, 2006 2:12 AM
From: "bill dality"

Light is the essence of all material forms,yet it does not perish when they perish. Why identify with the bodily form rather than the immortal essence within?!
Know thine own secret nature to be immortal.
Why would you think yourself to be anything less!
Liberation/salvation is knowing this with certainty (without doubt).
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:20:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "tomas @yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: What is the best identity the brain can construct?
To: "bill dality"

Anything which can be described has an identity.
If there exists something without boundaries it already got a property by which it can be described,namely its boundlessness, so it has an identity. However having an identity does not necessarily mean that one is an identity.
If you reach an absolute detachment from your identity, you reach a state
of being not an identity.


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You don't think it's possible to have existence and awareness without
limiting boundaries fabricated by the mind?
It should be possible to embrace a greater identity than that of a perishible
material form wch is destined to dissolution/death.
How about an identity wch is boundless(has no limits or boundaries)?
Perhaps any identity by definition is finite and limited.
Perhaps an identity without any boundaries is no identity at all; that is , the absence of identity!

In transcending one's personal identity(as a drop)one merges with the ocean and embraces a transpersonal identity(universe,light,/energy)wch has no limiting boundaries and is not perishable(i.e. it is immortal)
During the brief time that we are alive within this body we have the opportunity to embrace a transpersonal identity ;that is, to transcend our identification with the perishable body.
The mystical experience of "oneness" is in essence a transformative change in one's identity whereby one relinquishes/transcends a constraining bounded identity and embraces a more inclusive transpersonal identity (such as light/energy/God) wch is co-extensive with the universe(one with all that there is)
Unless one's sense of self pierces through the boundary of one's own skin and embraces something ever greater (a greater self) one remains stultified in one's spiritual and human development.
Nothing liberates the human spirit from confinement to self more than the birth of a child,and the experience of love.
A human being who does not grow beyond himself--who lives only for himself and the gratification of his own desires--remains stunted and stultified. One must love and serve something greater than one's self.All men must have something greater than themselves to love. They must be able to access the Divine!! (that wch is worthy of love)

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From tomas
Subject: I-DENT-IT-Y ?
To: "bill


LIFE IN ANY FORM WITHOUT IDENTITY IS IMPOSSIBLE.
NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY TO GET RID OF IT. EXISTENCE OF
ANYTHING IS INEXTRICABLY TIED TO IDENTITY. GET RID
OF YOUR EXISTENCE AND THEN ONLY THEN YOU GET RID
OF YOUR IDENTITY.
CHICHA COCA EDIC T OM STILL IDENTIFIABLY ALIVE.
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http://www.hafizonlove.com/index.htm

Identity

Identity is a very illusive thing. It is given to us, yet we embrace it and own it as if it was always our own.

When we are first born, we come to this world with no identity. Then somebody says, he is the son of so and so, or she belongs to such family… and thus our first identity is acquired.

We wear different identities throughout our lives like different clothing. We have a nationality which is the garment given to us by the virtue of the geographic location of our birth. Of course we have our family. Then we go to school and are given performance identities, such as a grade "A" student. We enter adolescence and are given social acceptance identities such as captain of the football team, or leader of the gang.

Once past our teens, we assume responsible identities such as a doctor or a mechanic. Of course being all of these responsible things, and wanting to fit into the society so badly, we take the bold step of forming our own family by becoming a spouse and eventually a parent.

The more successful among us, adopt larger families such as becoming the CEO of a corporation, or the President of a country, or simply the head of a clan etc.

And when we die, we are eulogized by acquiring the new identity of being among the blessed, while we lived a good life on earth.

But are these really who we are?

Identity in life is more like the snake‘s skin. Once we outgrow it, it is time to shed it and get another one.

Don’t misunderstand me. Identity is a very practical and useful thing to have. It helps us sort things out in neatly packaged ways, and thus makes living and relating to others much easier – at least on a practical level.

But identity is also the straight jacket of the soul. As human beings, we are so much more than the labels we are given. These labels are merely masks that the soul wears. But if we are not careful, the masks will stick to the soul and we will forget to take them off.

Identifying with our identity is perhaps the biggest blow we can give to our soul, which is always flowing, and ever so defiant of definition. How can the soul be the infinite potentiality that it is, if it is restricted to a particular shape and description of its vessel?

Yes, I say. Liberate the soul. Shed the identity. Get rid of the old self. Become a "nobody", and make room for the next mask.

© Shahriar Shahriari
Los Angeles, CA
November 2004

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Who we are depends on how we choose to define ourselves.
Perhaps the best identity is the extinction of all identity.
Any specific identity by virtue of being limited is incomplete.
To say that "I" and "God" exist is a denial of the Oneness of God.
I am afflicted with fear when I separate "You" from "me".
When "I" am no more, then God is his own mirror/devotee and fear is dispelled.

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