distinquishing between the "expansion of space" and the "contraction of time"
The "red shift" need not be interpreted as an
"expansion of space",but rather as a "slowing of time".
Since space and time are concepts that are relative to each other (i.e. are defined in inverse relation to each other), a slowing of time would mean that it would take longer to traverse a fixed spatial distance,and if one were convinced that the movement of time remained fixed/unchanged/constant then one could only account for the fact that the journey took longer by assuming that the other variable(space/distance) had lenghtened or undergone expansion.
Thus the observation of an expanding universe/space could be accounted for with equal validity in terms of a contraction or slowing of time
Velocity or speed is defined as the rate of change in space(distance) as a function of time: V= D/T
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/einsteinlight/jw/module4_time_dilation.htm
The nature of Velocity:
Velocity=V=d/t
Velocity is the rate of "contraction of space"as a function of "time"
Thus when we say that something ,"C" travels at 186000 miles a second or 700 million miles an hour
we mean that in one second the spatial distance between object A (source) and object B (destination)
contracts/diminishes by 186,000 km.
If we vary one variable while holding the other constant:
Velocity increases by increasing "d" (the numerator) while keeping "t" constant, or by diminishing "t" (the denominator) while keeping "d" (space) constant.
"C' (the speed of light) is a fixed ratio of "d/t".
For this ratio to remain constant, any increment or decrement in the numerator must be cancelled by an equivalent change in the denominator. Thus C= d+1/t+1 = C ; C= d-1/t-1 =C ; d = Ct ; t = d/C
If "d" increased independently of "t",then C could not remain constant,but would increase.
Thus for "C" to remain constant ,there cannot be an "expansion of space" without a corresponding equivalent "expansion of time".
In other words any "expansion of space" must be cancelled out by an equivalent "speeding up of time"!
The "expansion of space" is a consequence of pegging the speed of light as a constant.
But if we instead fix/hold "distance"/space as constant ,then it is the speed of light that must change with "time"! C= v = d/t ;d = Ct
If light traveled twice as fast as it does...it would only take four minutes (instead of 8 minutes) to reach us from the sun.But the same effect would be achieved if space contracted by half
In other words, halving the distance between A and B (a contraction of space)is equivalent to doubling the speed of light! The corollary of this is that an expansion of space equal to a doubling of the distance between A and B, would be equivalent to halving the speed of light ...since it would take twice as long to traverse the expanded distance between A and B.
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STRETCHING AND CONTRACTING SPACE AS THE SOLE CAUSE OF ALL MOTION
Monday, April 3, 2006 9:21 PM
From: "bill dality"
To: tomas@yahoo.ca
I suppose that's one possibility...if a law of "conservation of space" were in effect
But if space is expanding in all directions equally then the sides BC and AD are also moving away from each other (not towards each other)
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:04:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "tomas " <@yahoo.ca>
Subject: RE: STRETCHING and CONTRACTING SPACE AS THE SOLE CAUSE OF ALL MOTION
To: "bill dality"
SUPPOSE YOU HAVE A SQUARE ABCD. THEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE OPPOSITE SIDES AB AND CD START MOVING APART WHILE THE OTHER OPPOSITE SIDES START MOVING TOWARDS EACH OTHER. USING THE THEORY THAT OBJECTS ARE NOT REALLY MOVING BUT RATHER IT IS THE SPACE BETWEEN THEM WHICH CHANGES, DOES IT MEAN THAT THE SAME SPACE CAN STRETCH AND SHRINK AT THE SAME TIME?
NO LONGER ON COCA, SWITCHED OVER TO AYAHUASCA.
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:16:16 -0800 (PST)
From: "bill dality"
Subject: Speed ,distance,time...getting from A to B by the contraction of space
To: tomas@yahoo.ca
Velocity =distance/time
If "space-time" are a single dimension then what does "velocity" mean?
These dimensions must be separated for "velocity" to have any meaning!
Light speed is not the fastest speed there is!
There does not appear to be any limit to the speed at wch space expands. Einstein only placed a limit (light speed)on the velocity at wch an object possessing mass can travel within space. Space is not a substance and theoretically has no mass.Space or volume is derived by cubing a linear dimension.
(see entry under "space,time,etc."
This generates a paradox : How is it possible to distinquish the increasing separation of two objects due to the expansion of space and another kind of motion that is not due to the expansion of space?...The relative motion between the two objects is the same and indistinguishable.
When describing the motion of one object in relation to another could we not say in equivalent terms that the objects themselves remain stationary, and it is the space between them that moves and undergoes expansion/contraction.
We say that the position of an object relative to another object cannot change at the speed of light because the mass of the object would become infinite. Why could we not simply avoid this problem by saying it is the space between the objects wch is expanding at light speed (or greater than light speed)? The objects do not accelerate to light speed(in fact they remain stationary);rather it is the space between the objects wch expands/contracts at light speed.
Are these not in effect equivalent descriptions of the same event?
If light waves are also stretched (red-shifted)as space expands then all measurements of spatial distance will be affected/distorted as the measuring rod(light) used to measure distance is itself lengthened!
The "expansion of space" increases the time required to traverse the distance/space between point A and point B.. Conversely ,"spatial contraction" decreases this time, ..and taken to the limit, both distance and time collase to zero! This "spatial collapse" might explain "quantum tunneling" whereby "energy" can traverse space from point A to point B instantaneously.(without the constraint of the light speed limit).
A corollary of this thesis follows:
To achieve travel at or greater than light velocity we need to learn how to contract space!
Quantum theory casts doubt on the notion that distant objects are really separated since "entangled" particles can act instantaneosly in unison even if separated by the width of a galaxy. The question is ,does this quantum effect also apply to human-scale objects? (see "Quantum entanglement")
If it is not possible for there to be a separation between observor (A) and observed (B),then observor and observed are a unified and inseparable whole/unity (AB)!
see "The concept of Non-dualism (Oneness)"
The "red shift" need not be interpreted as an
"expansion of space",but rather as a "slowing of time".
Since space and time are concepts that are relative to each other (i.e. are defined in inverse relation to each other), a slowing of time would mean that it would take longer to traverse a fixed spatial distance,and if one were convinced that the movement of time remained fixed/unchanged/constant then one could only account for the fact that the journey took longer by assuming that the other variable(space/distance) had lenghtened or undergone expansion.
Thus the observation of an expanding universe/space could be accounted for with equal validity in terms of a contraction or slowing of time
Velocity or speed is defined as the rate of change in space(distance) as a function of time: V= D/T
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/einsteinlight/jw/module4_time_dilation.htm
The nature of Velocity:
Velocity=V=d/t
Velocity is the rate of "contraction of space"as a function of "time"
Thus when we say that something ,"C" travels at 186000 miles a second or 700 million miles an hour
we mean that in one second the spatial distance between object A (source) and object B (destination)
contracts/diminishes by 186,000 km.
If we vary one variable while holding the other constant:
Velocity increases by increasing "d" (the numerator) while keeping "t" constant, or by diminishing "t" (the denominator) while keeping "d" (space) constant.
"C' (the speed of light) is a fixed ratio of "d/t".
For this ratio to remain constant, any increment or decrement in the numerator must be cancelled by an equivalent change in the denominator. Thus C= d+1/t+1 = C ; C= d-1/t-1 =C ; d = Ct ; t = d/C
If "d" increased independently of "t",then C could not remain constant,but would increase.
Thus for "C" to remain constant ,there cannot be an "expansion of space" without a corresponding equivalent "expansion of time".
In other words any "expansion of space" must be cancelled out by an equivalent "speeding up of time"!
The "expansion of space" is a consequence of pegging the speed of light as a constant.
But if we instead fix/hold "distance"/space as constant ,then it is the speed of light that must change with "time"! C= v = d/t ;d = Ct
If light traveled twice as fast as it does...it would only take four minutes (instead of 8 minutes) to reach us from the sun.But the same effect would be achieved if space contracted by half
In other words, halving the distance between A and B (a contraction of space)is equivalent to doubling the speed of light! The corollary of this is that an expansion of space equal to a doubling of the distance between A and B, would be equivalent to halving the speed of light ...since it would take twice as long to traverse the expanded distance between A and B.
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STRETCHING AND CONTRACTING SPACE AS THE SOLE CAUSE OF ALL MOTION
Monday, April 3, 2006 9:21 PM
From: "bill dality"
To: tomas@yahoo.ca
I suppose that's one possibility...if a law of "conservation of space" were in effect
But if space is expanding in all directions equally then the sides BC and AD are also moving away from each other (not towards each other)
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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:04:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "tomas " <@yahoo.ca>
Subject: RE: STRETCHING and CONTRACTING SPACE AS THE SOLE CAUSE OF ALL MOTION
To: "bill dality"
SUPPOSE YOU HAVE A SQUARE ABCD. THEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE OPPOSITE SIDES AB AND CD START MOVING APART WHILE THE OTHER OPPOSITE SIDES START MOVING TOWARDS EACH OTHER. USING THE THEORY THAT OBJECTS ARE NOT REALLY MOVING BUT RATHER IT IS THE SPACE BETWEEN THEM WHICH CHANGES, DOES IT MEAN THAT THE SAME SPACE CAN STRETCH AND SHRINK AT THE SAME TIME?
NO LONGER ON COCA, SWITCHED OVER TO AYAHUASCA.
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:16:16 -0800 (PST)
From: "bill dality"
Subject: Speed ,distance,time...getting from A to B by the contraction of space
To: tomas@yahoo.ca
Velocity =distance/time
If "space-time" are a single dimension then what does "velocity" mean?
These dimensions must be separated for "velocity" to have any meaning!
Light speed is not the fastest speed there is!
There does not appear to be any limit to the speed at wch space expands. Einstein only placed a limit (light speed)on the velocity at wch an object possessing mass can travel within space. Space is not a substance and theoretically has no mass.Space or volume is derived by cubing a linear dimension.
(see entry under "space,time,etc."
This generates a paradox : How is it possible to distinquish the increasing separation of two objects due to the expansion of space and another kind of motion that is not due to the expansion of space?...The relative motion between the two objects is the same and indistinguishable.
When describing the motion of one object in relation to another could we not say in equivalent terms that the objects themselves remain stationary, and it is the space between them that moves and undergoes expansion/contraction.
We say that the position of an object relative to another object cannot change at the speed of light because the mass of the object would become infinite. Why could we not simply avoid this problem by saying it is the space between the objects wch is expanding at light speed (or greater than light speed)? The objects do not accelerate to light speed(in fact they remain stationary);rather it is the space between the objects wch expands/contracts at light speed.
Are these not in effect equivalent descriptions of the same event?
If light waves are also stretched (red-shifted)as space expands then all measurements of spatial distance will be affected/distorted as the measuring rod(light) used to measure distance is itself lengthened!
The "expansion of space" increases the time required to traverse the distance/space between point A and point B.. Conversely ,"spatial contraction" decreases this time, ..and taken to the limit, both distance and time collase to zero! This "spatial collapse" might explain "quantum tunneling" whereby "energy" can traverse space from point A to point B instantaneously.(without the constraint of the light speed limit).
A corollary of this thesis follows:
To achieve travel at or greater than light velocity we need to learn how to contract space!
Perhaps changing space is no more an impossibility than breaking the sound barrier!
According to Einstein ,"space" is malleable ,and can be bent and even collapsed.
(Incidentally "time" also is not a fixed entity ,but is also influenced by the speed of travel .
The flow of time slows to zero as we approach the speed of light,and at light speed time flow stops altogether.).
According to the Fitzgerald-Lorenz principle ,the dimension of lenght collapses to zero at the speed of light!
That is,at light speed ,space collapses in the direction of motion!
This is equivalent to stating that the spatial distance between A and B becomes zero, or that A and B occupy the same point in space,or that the distance between A and B can be traversed instantaneously.
This suggests that we can travel great distances instantaneosly by manipulating time and space.If it is not possible for there to be a separation between observor (A) and observed (B),then observor and observed are a unified and inseparable whole/unity (AB)!
see "The concept of Non-dualism (Oneness)"